November 10, 2011

The Journey To Get Songwriters Their Money

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By Jeff Price

I started on the TuneCore journey about six years ago, and we were able to change the global music industry.  We now get to change it for songwriters.

I co-ran a label called spinART Records for a little over 17 years.  I got to release bands like The Pixies, Apples In Stereo, Echo & The Bunnymen, Clem Snide, The Eels, The Technical Jed, The Fastbacks, Bis, and many others, some of which you may have heard of, others not, but they all mattered to me.  I loved what I did.

Music was my passion. The artists I listened to helped define and inspire me. In 1990, the year I graduated college, I was invited by my high school friend Joel to help release a compilation CD called “One Last Kiss.” I took him up on the offer and got to go on a two decade ride of working with, and for, the coolest people on the planet.

Along the way I met two gentlemen, Gene and Bob.  It was 1996, they had an idea that had never been done before; they wanted to create a music store on the Internet where people could buy music as downloads from a website they called eMusic.  This pre-dated the original Napster by three years and iTunes by almost six.  There were no iPods, iPhones, iPads or smartphones. Creative labs had a portable 20 meg MP3 player.  Walmart was still the number one music retail outlet, and the only way artists could be one of the 50 titles on their shelf was by being signed to a major record label.  I began working with eMusic. I was lucky to be there at the birth of the digital music industry.  I learned a lot, in particular, no longer did a band need access to an infrastructure that made 5” circular plastic discs and shipped them to Walmart and Tower Records.  All a band needed was a way to get their music file onto Apple’s hard drive.

Move forward in time, iTunes was the place the world started to go to buy music.  Digital began to explode. Through my work with eMusic, I got to know and understand this new digital music space. Through my label, I also knew the old music industry. I watched artists give up so much to just gain access.  It wasn’t right, I wanted to fix it, shove the gatekeepers out of the way, remove the bullies, make things right.

In October 2005, I called my friends Gary and Peter with an idea. They loved it, they quit their jobs and we got to work.  Twelve weeks later, TuneCore was born.  For the first time, for a simple flat annual fee, all artists could have access to global distribution, keep all of their rights, and get all the money from the sale of their music.   There were no more gatekeepers saying they could not be let in.  I did not think about it like this at the time, but we got to democratize an industry.

And now, six years later, TuneCore is the world’s largest music distributor.  It distributes more music in one month than EMI, Sony, Universal and Warner combined distribute over 80 years.

In the last three years, TuneCore Artists have sold over 400 million units of music and earned over $174 million dollars from the sale of their recordings.  Each second, three songs from TuneCore Artists sell via download and nine songs are streamed via paid streaming services.  In 2011 alone, TuneCore Artists are on track to earn over $100 million dollars from the downloads and paid streams of their recordings.

Move forward in time, my friend George turned me on to an article about the six legal sub-copyrights a songwriter gets when he or she writes a song.  Every time a song is streamed, downloaded and/or publicly performed, the songwriter makes money.  I began to read more and learned about the archaic, byzantine rules of where a songwriter’s money went and how they were able to collect it.  Turns out, they couldn’t.  The digital music stores pay the songwriter money to over 200 songwriter collection agencies around the world, on every continent, with names like JASRAC, SAMRO, GEMA, AAS, SGAE, SOCAN, SIAE and so on.  There the money sits, uncollected, unidentified as to whose it is. After a period of time, it is given to other music companies based on their market share.

This infuriates me.

I began to dig deeper and learned more about how the money flowed, how it was earned, what the royalty rates were, and who set these rates.  My long time lawyer and friend Josh suggested I speak with Jamie, the then EVP of Music Publishing Administration for the largest independent music publishing company in the world, Bug Music Publishing.  We had dinner.  I learned more from him.  I asked him to come to TuneCore and help me build a system that could get our songwriters their money. He left Bug after working there for almost 20 years and took the job as President TuneCore Songwriter Publishing Administration. In the next months he set up the global collection infrastructure that would allow us to register songs and then show up at these agencies’ doors to get our songwriters their money.

I learned more from Jamie.  I met his former boss Fred Bourgoise. In 1973, Fred co-founded Bug Music Publishing to help independent songwriters get their money; the TuneCore of its time.  Fred began to advise me and further teach me the nuances of the songwriter royalty industry.   He joined the TuneCore Board of Directors.

Jamie dug into the data to identify how much TuneCore songwriters earned; it looked to be over $100 million dollars.

I was stunned.

I now had two goals:

-       Get TuneCore songwriters their money before it got given away to others.

-       Cut out the middleman wherever I could so we could get more money back more quickly, with more transparency to songwriters.

Jamie worked with our tech team to show them what needed to be built, and they built an incredibly complex system incredibly quickly.

That system has now launched.  The global registration and collection infrastructure is in place, the staff has been hired, and today we are throwing the switch making it available to the world.

The press release below went out today, Wednesday, November 2nd, at 6AM Eastern.   The day all songwriters can now gain access to their money.

The revolution continues…

( To learn more about the service go to: tunecore.com/songwriters )

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TUNECORE SONGWRITER SERVICE LAUNCHES NOVEMBER 2,
UNLOCKS TENS OF MILLIONS FOR ARTISTS AND SONGWRITERS

ACADEMY AWARD WINNER, NINE INCH NAILS WRITER

TRENT REZNOR SIGNS ON

Six years ago, TuneCore changed the music industry with the launch of its music distribution service.  On November 2nd, with the launch of its Songwriter Publishing Administration Service, it is again revolutionizing the music business. For the first time, at the click of a button, any songwriter can have music publishing that:

-globally registers their copyrights
-collects money that is rightfully theirs
-protects and polices their copyrights and songs
-issues licenses on their behalf

Each time a song is downloaded or streamed, songwriters earn money. TuneCore’s Songwriter Service, by going direct with the digital music services, globally retrieves this money for songwriters’, procuring more money for them more quickly and with greater transparency than any other service.  This applies to both songwriters presently in the system and those who will have their earnings collected for the very first time, a group that is 98% of the world’s songwriters.

TuneCore President Jeff Price points out, “No longer will songwriters be shut out of a system. In addition to letting artists get their money in a direct and transparent manner our team is also getting the artist their earnings faster and matching up millions of uncollected dollars with their rightful owners.”

Digital pioneer Trent Reznor, an early adopter to the TuneCore distribution system, has already signed up for the Songwriter Publishing Administration Service, including releases by Nine Inch Nails and his new project How To Destroy Angels.  Several hundred other songwriters have also signed up during the beta testing and are now collecting their money from over 10,000 songs they wrote.

Price comments, “Once artists look under the hood and see how much more money we can get them in a shorter period of time and with transparency we think the service will take off as quickly as our digital distribution service did.”

HOW IT WORKS:

The TuneCore Songwriter Publishing Administration Service enables any songwriter to sign up for global publishing administration immediately.

It will:

1. Register songwriter’s songs with organizations that use and track their copyrights so they know they exist, what songs are theirs and what money belongs to them.
2. Issue any licenses needed and handle any requests for the use of a songwriter’s songs in TV shows, movies, commercials and other media, and negotiate any licenses with TuneCore’s in-house Film & Visual Media department to get them the best possible terms.
3. Represent the songwriter and aggressively pursue all of their songwriting earnings.
4. Get songwriter’s existing “found” money back before it is given to someone else.
5. Police the world on the songwriter’s behalf to find illegal usage or copyright violation and make it stop and/or get the songwriter paid.

By going direct with the digital music services, TuneCore eliminates multiple middlemen used by all other services thereby growing songwriter earnings by up to 25%.

TuneCore Songwriter Service costs a one-time payment of $49.99 for global registration plus 10% of the money TuneCore collects, the remaining 90% is distributed to the songwriter. Currently artists must be using TuneCore for distribution in order to sign up, but plans are in the works for any rights holder to be able to sign up in the near future.

TuneCore is now the largest distributor of music, artists and labels in the world.  Its customers have sold over 400 million units of music and earned over a quarter billion dollars. Concurrently, more artists are making more money than ever before and digital music sales continue to rise.

WHO WE ARE:

Jamie Purpora, President TuneCore Music Publishing Administration
Jamie comes to TuneCore with 17 years of experience in music publishing administration at Bug Music Inc. Bug Music became one of the largest independent music publishers in the world and was named #99 in Inc. Magazine’s top 100 fastest growing private companies in 2009. From 1997-2001, Jamie was Director of Royalties and from 2001 -2011 he was Senior Vice President of Administration.

Jamie was responsible for overseeing publishing administration for Bug’s entire catalog, which consisted of over 300,000 copyrights. Clients included Willie Dixon, Muddy Waters, Iggy Pop, Stevie Ray Vaughan, The Guess Who, The Kings of Leon, Johnny Cash, Ryan Adams, Wilco, Tradition Music, Average White Band, Del Shannon and the Trio/Quartet Music catalog. Jamie also served on the Publisher’s Technology Board at the Harry Fox Agency for the last three years.

Fred Bourgoise – Board Member/Advisor
Fred was co-architect of the groundbreaking worldwide music publishing administration service Bug Music. He was President and co-owner from 1976 until its 2006 sale to Spectrum Equity Investors. From its humble and committed beginning, Bug became the music administration gold standard and trusted island for publishers, songwriters, copyrights, and artists. While experiencing meteoric growth and success, Bug evolved into the largest independent music publisher in the pre-digital-download-streaming world, with offices in Los Angeles, Nashville, New York, London, and Munich, Germany. After the Spectrum purchase, Fred continued to serve as a consultant and board member for Bug until 2009.

Fred first assisted TuneCore in 2010 as a consultant. In June 2011 he was elected to the Board of Directors.

Nicholas Boski, Executive Vice President, Legal Affairs and General Counsel
Nicholas has spent several years working in the music and legal industries.  A graduate of Georgetown Law, Nicholas was the proprietor of The Boski Law Firm PLLC, which specialized in music and new media law.  Nicholas also spent time as a Contract and Royalties Analyst at Warner Music Group and three years as a commercial litigator a Cahill Gordon & Reindel LLP.

Josh Grier
Josh Grier, a New York based entertainment attorney who has served as outside counsel for TuneCore since its inception, will expand his role with the company to advise on business affairs, corporate strategy and senior executive staffing for the new music publishing operations.

Julie Foist, Manager Film & Visual Media Licensing
Julie worked at Windswept/Bug Music Publishing for 5 years as Film & Visual Media Licensing Manager.

Jeremy Crowther, Registration Specialist
Jeremy Crowther comes to us with 15 years experience at Bug Music Inc. where he held the position of Director of Copyright for the last 8 years.

Megan Grosz, Publishing Administrator
Megan comes to us from Bug Music Inc., where she spent the last three years as New Client Administrator and as a Copyright Assistant.  Previously, Megan was an assistant to Sheila E. and prior to that handled Mechanical Licensing at CMH Records.

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November 10, 2011 · 99 comments in Jeff's Postings,Music Publishing & Copyright,The Industry

  • http://twitter.com/summertimesend Summertime’s End

    Does this mean all YouTube streams will be counted? It doesn’t seem that YouTube is recognising all our songs just yet.

  • http://www.facebook.com/josh.woods.ef Josh Woods

    How does this service compare to the likes of BMI/ASCAP?

  • http://www.facebook.com/SkitzoFlowz Skitzo Flowz

    Awesome,here comes Our Mechanical Royalties !!!!!!

  • Paul Speer

    Good stuff, Jeff.  So… I would like more info about the songwriter publishing administration service.  A few questions…

    How do I add this product to the shopping cart? 
     
    Does the one time $49.99 fee cover all my music distributed by TuneCore or is it per album?
     
    I have been a composer and publisher with BMI for many years.  Does this alter my relationship with them? 
     
    How about Sound Exchange?
     
    I have three albums controlled by EMI.  They are out of print physically but still sold and streamed digitally worldwide.  Would I receive income through TuneCore for these?

    Thanks…

  • Smetzger

    Awesome! I’ll be signing up!

  • Anonymous

    @paul

    to get started, go here – http://www.tunecore.com/songwriters

    the $49.99 is a one time charge that covers every song you write that you would like to hires us to register, license and collect on.
    This does not alter your BMI relationship, they will still be hired to collect money owed to you as a songwriter from the areas they collect on that TuneCore does not (i.e. commercial radio etc). For the digital music services, we will be cutting them out and getting up to 25% more of your money back to you more quickly with transparency and an audit trail.
    For the EMI albums, you could hire us as well if you control some part of the copyright to the songs (not the recordings)
    As EMI distributes the albums, we would not have access to the sales data the same way we do for the albums you do use TuneCore to distribute so we would not have the same audit trail available.
    Phew!

    jeff

  • Anonymous

    @Summertimes’s end

    Regardless of TuneCore, if you wrote a song, and it is appearing in a YouTube video, you are to be paid for each stream
    If you choose to hire TuneCore to work for you, we would chase YouTube to get any money owed to you
    Jeff

  • Anonymous

    @Josh Woods

    This does not alter your BMI/ASCAP relationship, they will still be hired to collect money owed to you as a songwriter from the areas they collect on that TuneCore does not (i.e. commercial radio etc). For the digital music services, we will be going direct with digital music services getting you up to 25% more of your money back to you more quickly with transparency and an audit trail.
    Jeff

  • Anonymous

    thats the plan!

    jeff

  • Robert Lamarz

    Great! But I can’t find this service when logged in to tunecore …

    This service will be very successful … but apart from the two blog posts, there is no info out there and “in there” neither …

  • Anonymous
  • Robert Lamarz

    wow, congrats, looks great!

    when will it be live for everyone?

  • Robert Lamarz

    What about SoundExchange?

    From their website:

    “SoundExchange is the non-profit performance rights organization that collects statutory royalties from satellite radio (such as SIRIUS XM), internet radio, cable TV music channels and similar platforms for streaming sound recordings.  The Copyright Royalty Board, which is appointed by The U.S. Library of Congress, has entrusted SoundExchange as the sole entity in the United States to collect and distribute these digital performance royalties on behalf of featured recording artists, master rights owners (like record labels), and independent artists who record and own their masters.”They claim they are the only entity that has a right to collect digital performance royalties … Do they collect for the sound recording copyright only, or for the songwriter, too?

  • Anonymous

    Soundexchange collects money for labels and lead performers for non interactive dmca compliant digital transmissions. The TuneCore Songwriter Service collects money for songwriters, not labels or performers, from all uses.
    Thank You

    Jeff Price
    Http://www.TuneCore.com

  • Robert Lamarz

    Thanks for the fast response. That makes it entirely clear.

    However, your response leads me to the next question:

    If TuneCore Songwriter Service collects for songwriters for all uses, where is the line between ASCAP/BMI and this new service?

  • Aaron North

    So, its like a normal national collection agency, but GLOBAL instead?
    I’m interested to know where it stands with/apart/against who im with in Australia (APRA). Also what if i signed to a publisher?
    THanks

  • Anonymous

    @robert

    we collect all songwriter royalties from all sources. We are a full on global music publishing administrator . The nuance is, in regards to only digital public performances, TuneCore goes direct with the digital music services, eliminating the multiple middlemen (like ASCAP/BMI or their equivalent somewhere else in the world) thereby growing songwriter earnings by up to 25% and getting more money back to you more quickly with transparency and an audit trail.
    Any public performance that is not digital is still collected by ASCAP/BMI etc and we monitor and audit them on your behalf.
    jeff

  • Anonymous

    @Aaron

    This is a full on global music publishing administrating deal that gets songwriters their money. If you are already in a music publishing deal, then you would need to check your contract to determine if you could hire TuneCore to work for you in regards to your songs.
    The differentiator with the TuneCore songwriter service is, TuneCore goes direct with the digital music services thereby eliminating the multiple middlemen (like APRA or their equivalent somewhere else in the world) thereby growing songwriter earnings by up to 25% and getting more money back to you more quickly with transparency and an audit trail.
    Any public performance that is not digital is still collected by APRA etc and we monitor and audit them on your behalf.
    jeff

  • Aaron North

    Thank you Jeff.
    I can imagine APRA and otherwise being upset by this quickly (constantly being audited/ratted for not getting artists their money quick enough, or enough in total).. Could this come back to artists in a negative way? That’s something im worried about – considering both you and them are “working for me” in essence.

    Also, as an electronic music artist, i have a big catalog of Beatport digital releases. About 90% of the label’s ive signed these songs to I have never seen royalty payments from. Is this something TC can significantly handle effectively for me?

  • Anonymous

    @aaron

    I will have Jamie and is team follow up with you directly

    jeff

  • http://www.facebook.com/sonnyonbass Sonny Onderwater

    Wow!  just… wow!

  • Robert Lamarz

    thumbs up!

  • http://twitter.com/Mosbbee Mosbe

    wow great Jeff i Love you man thanks for all you do!!!

  • Anonymous

    thank you.

    very cool of you to say!

    jeff

  • Robert Lamarz

    Do I still need to be a member of ASCAP/BMI, GEMA (Germany), SACEM (France) etc. individually (for non-digital public performance) in a global deal with TuneCore Songwriter Service? 

    When you monitor them, will you send an audit report for each country society (for the non-digital rights that they collect on) every couple of months?

    Would you be collecting from them on my behalf?

  • Anonymous

    @Robert Lamarz

    We handle the PRO issues for you.

    The TuneCore Songwriter Publishing Administration Service collects all songwriter royalties from all sources. The nuance is, in regards to only digital public performances, TuneCore goes direct with the digital music services, eliminating the multiple middlemen (like ASCAP/BMI/GEMA/SACEM or their equivalent somewhere else in the world) thereby growing songwriter earnings by up to 25% and getting more money back to them more quickly with transparency and an audit trail.
    Any public performance that is not digital is still collected by ASCAP/BMI/SESAC etc and we monitor and audit them on songwriter’s behalf.
    jeff

  • Robert Lamarz

    Sounds great, but …

    do I still need to be a member of the respective country PROs (and pay their membership dues)?

  • Paul Speer

    Thanks, Jeff.  Another question regarding:”(TuneCore will) issue any licenses needed and handle any requests for the use of your songs in TV shows, movies, commercials and other media, and negotiate any licenses with our in-house Film & Visual Media department in an attempt to get you the best possible terms, as well as collect your money and get it back to you”. 

    I already have a relationship with an administrator for my BMI publishing company.  That company handles the aforementioned aspects of licensing my music.  Can TuneCore and my admin co-exist?  Or does something need to change?

  • Vincenzo Pandolfi

    What a fantastic journey! Thank you Jeff, Peter, Gary & Team for your vision.

  • KT

    Thanks Jeff and TuneCore staff. You guys are awesome and have impecabile timing. We are just getting
    started with you (Sept. 2011) and this service sounds excellent.

    KT

  • JustSomeGuy

    This looks really great ! I’m looking forward to it. There really is a need to simplify the complexity of managing all the source of revenues for musicians.

     However i hope this is not a service restricted to US musicians only ? I read in the support pages that you need the social security number for this . I live in France, so how does this work for musicians in the rest of the world ? It would be a shame if this service can only be used by US musicians.

  • Anonymous

    You can sign up no matter which country you reside in.  It will just require separate tax form that we will provide you outside of the Use Experience (for now).

  • Anonymous

    It depends on the administration agreement you have in place.  If it is only for pitching then yes you can use this service.  But if it is a full on adminnistration deal we can not represent you. 

  • Anonymous

    No you do not need to affiliate with them separatly.  You should however be affiliated with one of them as a writer (we recomend BMI because writer affiliation is free and you can sign up online).  If you are affiliated with them as a writer and a publisher that works just as well.  If only as a writer we will cover the publisher side for you and flow through your earnings. 

    But to answer your question again no.  We will collect on your behalf.

  • Anonymous

    As long as you supply detailed release information for the releases in question yes.  Are they US based lables?  If yes we would have to approach each one individualy.  If they are foreign releases the society in each territory should be sitting on the money based on the units sold.

  • Anonymous

    And we would collect that money from those societies.

  • http://twitter.com/endydaniyanto Endy Daniyanto

    Hi Jeff,

    Thanks for creating the Songwriter Service. I am a novice with this, and I only have 1 album available digitally, distributed through TuneCore around a month ago. So I am very excited that this service is coming full throttle!

    My question is (also to see if I understand this right): I am wanting to see if I can hustle to get one (or preferably more) of my songs licensed for use in a TV episode or commercial in the U.S market, but I am not of U.S citizenship or residency (I live in Indonesia). Robin Frederick (if you know her) says that music supervisors mainly only work with composers that are members of the PROs; she suggested I sign up with my domestic PRO, and I did find one that is a foreign affiliate of BMI.

    But now that the TuneCore Songwriter Service is available, I am wondering whether I can expedite the process. Does being a member mean that:

    (a) You register my global copyrights, for the album I distribute through your platform, so I no longer need to register them myself, even here in my home country?

    (b) Previously I released my music for free under a Creative Commons BY-SA license. Does this mean that the copyright registered by TuneCore overrides the CC license?

    (c) If I do succeed in convincing a music publisher to use my song in a U.S TV episode or commercial, and he asks which PRO am I a member of, does being a TuneCore Songwriter Service member suffice to deal with the mechanics of royalty collection? Or do I still need to be a member of the PROs?

    Again, thanks Jeff and TuneCore for being a great company. I am already signed up as a member of your Songwriter Service.

    Cheers,

  • Anonymous

    @Endy

    Thank you for taking the time to read and post.

    First the short version – if you choose to sign up with TuneCore’s songwriter publishing administration service, we would take care of all of this for you.
    YOU ASKED:

    a) You register my global copyrights, for the album I distribute through your platform, so I no longer need to register them myself, even here in my home country?
    ANSWER
    Yes

    YOU ASKED:

    (b) If I do succeed in convincing a music publisher to use my song in a U.S TV episode or commercial, and he asks which PRO am I a member of, does being a TuneCore Songwriter Service member suffice to deal with the mechanics of royalty collection? Or do I still need to be a member of the PROs?
    ANSWER:

    The TuneCore service will assure they know which PRO you are represented by and/or issue the public performance license directly. TuneCore will also assure you get paid the public performance money you are owed from the use of your music.

    Now the long version:

    When you make a song tangible (meaning record it or write it down) you a copyright to that song. That copyright – represented by a (c) – has six sort of sub copyrights (i.e. rules/laws). One of these six is called Public Performance.

    Under U.S., and most international law, the moment a song leaves your head
    and becomes tangible (meaning it has been recorded and/or written down) you
    get a copyright that is comprised of six “sub-copyright”s. One of these
    six is the exclusive right to “Publicly Perform.” The right of public
    performance means that no other person or entity can publicly perform your
    song without a license from you. A “public performance” is: your song broadcast on TV in a show or commercials, in a
    YouTube video, on the radio a stream from Spotify or Pandora, music played in
    live venues, jukebox play, music played in retail stores and bars, etc:

    Any entity that wants to publicly perform a song must get a “public
    performance” license from the entity that controls the right. The
    songwriter controls this right unless he or she has done a deal transferring
    it to another entity called a “publisher” or a “publishing administrator.”
    Almost all songwriters and/or publishers outsource the job of issuing public
    performance licenses to third party organizations called Performance Rights
    Organizations (PROs). These organizations deal with and license this one
    right on behalf of their members.

    Each time a songwriter’s song is publicly performed, the
    songwriter/publisher is to be paid by the performance rights organization
    from the money it collects.

    What Robin states is not exactly accurate. That is, by default, YOU are the music publisher until you either hire someone to work for you (like TuneCore) or sell/transfer your copyright rights to another entity.

    Robin’s point is, these entities called PROs have infrastructure and relationships to issue public performance licenses and collect the money owed to the songwriter

    You too can issue public performance licenses, the problem is, you dont have the ability to track all the uses of your song, dont have the knowledge base/relationships the PROs do etc, so you outsource this one particular job to them.

    There are 110+ PROs around the world, and even if some are not in your home country, some would let you become a member of one of them even if you live in a different country.

    Once you sign up with one PRO, they share the data in their database with all the other PROs and give the other PROs the right to issue public performance licenses and collect money on your behalf.

    For example, you decide to become a member of a the PRO BMI in the United States. Once you do that, and fill out all the paperwork etc, every other PRO in the world will have your data and can issue public performance licenses on your behalf.

    All the PROs can then collect money owed to you if your song is publicly performed in their country. Each one takes % of the money they collect as an “administrative fee.” The amount they charge others to use your song is kept secret – they refuse to reveal the rates which means you never know if they are doing their job.

    The amount of money they take for their fee is somewhere between 12 – 20%. Now, if you song is publicly performed in France, and you are affiliated with the US PRO BMI, the French PRO will take its 12 – 20% of the money it collects as its fee. They then sit on your money for somewhere between 6 – 12 months. After that point they pass it back to the US PRO you are affiliated with. The US PRO will take another 3.5% of your money and sit on it for another 6 months or so after which point they (hopefully) pay you.

    Jeff

  • Westernranchmusic

    Bless you TuneCore!

  • MrCurious

    I am a member with PRS only as a songwriter can i let Tunecore be my Publisher for all the songs they have registered for me?
    Going forward do i still need to register my songs with them or can i let Tunecore do everything for me?
    How can i become a member? Where do i sign up?

  • Larran,

    I have testbuying my own music, and still I havent seen a dollar. I do not trust you people.

  • Dannygeegoju

    Thank you…Thank you…Thank you Tune Core

  • http://www.youtube.com/7ProfitzProductions Apademik

    Thank you Jeff Price!  Peace, Apademik of the band “7 Profitz”

  • Johnre

    Mr. Jeff Price.. All of this legal/money craziness is such a maze for
    musicians. Though, by nature, I believe musicians are very intellectual.
    However, few of us want to attempt to delve into all of this legal
    knowledge so deeply.  We want to focus on creating and performing. That
    being said, I really admire what you are pulling together, here. It is
    looong overdue. As I looked at other companies to use for distribution, I
    chose Tunecore, because I like your ‘terms and conditions’ over the
    competitors, better, and because I feel that I have an innovative,
    strong advocate in you/Tunecore…a stream of important information and
    knowledge about the industry that many of us are so unfamiliar with.. we
    are like the little fish in the shark pool.  As I have been going
    through the process of trying to insure that my new music is fully
    protected, your information has been a great resource.  This Songwriters
    Service is just the icing on the cake!!..and what a sweet ‘icing’ it
    is!! :) lol  You can bet that I will be signing up for this service. 
    Many thanks. Johnre

  • Anonymous

    @Larran

    thats very odd. When did you buy it? Which store? I will ask Artist Support to reach out to you
    jeff

  • Anonymous

    @Apademik

    peace!

    jeff

  • Anonymous

    @ McCurious

    Yes you can!  TuneCore will register all future aongs (and double check previous registrations) on your behalf.  To become a member send an email to songwriters@tunecore.com and ask to have the Songwriter Service tunred on because you want to sign up.  Later next week it should automatically be available for everyone.

  • T.E.A.M Elite

    I have a standard distribution deal with a company that is offering 60 percent for me and 40 percent for them.  

    A) Will using your “songwriter publishing administration service” effect this deal in a way that i cannot sign that deal if i go through their distribution service?

    B) If i do use their distribution service and also use Tunecore to sell my albums, will that somehow terminate my contract with them because of your songwriter service?

  • http://www.michaelhorsphol.com/ Mhorsphol

    Well done Tunecore! I used to make 60% of my CD price before i was signed to a record company who promised a 60/40% non exclusive agreement. My songs sell for around $1.69 and all i get paid by the record company is .03 cents a download. This is a shameless act of profiteering if ever i saw one. Anyway I am going to stay with Tunecore now!

  • Tony Ray

    The reason I quit tunecore  last week is I wasn’t getting paid for my sales even though I knew of over 500 fans who’d bought my 3 song EP, “Tony Ray- Night & Day” through an outlet you had put me on. Show me the honest money I’ve earned and I’ll come back. Right now I have a lot of interested companies wanting to sale my 2 NEW CD’s coming out next month so let me know if you’ve finally got this fixed. Thank you Jeff. Aloha, Tony Ray traytown2222@gmail.com

  • Anonymous

    @Tony Ray

    You absolutely receive every penny, or fraction thereof, that the digital music stores pay out for the sale of your music
    If your music sold in a store, and you did not not get, please provide us something we can take to the store to prove they did not pay you. We will absolutely go to battle for you, its our job
    Best thing to do, ask any of the 500 fans to email you a copy of the receipt they got from the store when they bought the music . We will then take it to the store as proof of the sale and learn why they did not pay you.
    That being said, I would be surprised if this was the case. TuneCore has paid out over $200 million dollars to its customers since it launched. It would be bizarre if one of the reputable music stores we work with decided for the first time to sell music and then specifically target you and not pay.
    And I have to assume you are not accusing TuneCore of deciding to break the law and decide to target you – and only you – and steal money it received.
    I will ask Artist Support to reach out to you.

    I also will ask you to please post a follow up post to let those that read this know what the conclusion is…
    jeff

  • BenGreen

    Ok, I have got TuneCore account and intned to use this service, so I ask you inform me when this will live
    to gradus45@gmail.com

    Konstantin Magical Mystery Orchestra

  • Rohan

    Awesome,

    I love all the new innovative ways forward to help artists slowly take back what was taken away from them.. Leaders like Tunecore are powerful tools for artists to have more control over and take more responsibility
    for their careers.. HELL YEAH!!

    We had a top 20 hit in Luxembourg and we’re a little indie band (Rudely Interrupted) from Australia and we had a hit on the other side of the world! This would not be possible 7 years ago, before iTunes and Tunecore. Thank the universe for Tunecore!

    And yes, we got paid and we continue to get paid, just like Tunecore said we’d be paid! We’ve earned $1000′s of $ and we KNOW Tunecore have been honest. I occasionally buy a song of ours as everyone who tries to sell music should do and YES we’ve been paid EVERY time..

    I cannot understand people who complain about not getting $ from songs they sold. It’s digital and traceable!!

    In most cases I suggest those peeps didn’t write the songs they recorded and don’t understand the basics of the music business.

    Thanks Jeff and thanks tunecore!!!

  • http://www.vinniejames.com Vinnie James

    Jeff, thank you for your commitment to serving the arts in the way you you’ve chosen to do it. I have kind of a special case and I’m wondering how TuneCore’s new service would handle it. Thank you in advance for your response.

    In 1991 I signed on with RCA/BMG to do a 3 album deal. I released one album, which did fairly well, and then, in the middle of the support tour for that album, RCA fell apart, and I became a casualty of that meltdown. You may remember (Buziak out, Galante in)…

    Anyway, I had done a 50-50 co-publishing deal with them, the term of which ended many years ago, and yet, a couple of years ago, quite to my surprise, they were still listed in the IP database as the co-publiser (administrator) of my works (and had been still collecting 50% of the royalties!). My representative at PRS helped me get it sorted out and I was able, through my attorney, to get BMG (now Universal) to send us correspondence stating that they agree they were WAY overdue in relinquishing their stake in my works, and that they were no longer claiming a 50% stake in those works, and that I was free to now collect the full share. I was also told that any monies collected after the term, could be returned to me, and that the administrator of my rights could go back several years to collect that money from BMG/Universal.

    Now the question: Universal is still showing as the administrator of my works in the IPI database. I have been told that once I “re-register” the songs in the IP database (via PRS), with me as the 100% interested party of the works, and once royalties are due, only then would the effort be put forth to confirm BMG/Universal’s claim of no longer being a 50% interested party. Would TuneCore (under their new service) take on the responsibility of confirming this? Would TuneCore review the correspondence between BMG, my attorney, and myself, to ensure that BMG/Universal doesn’t get one more cent of royalties they are not legally entitled to?

    Like so many who have posted here, I am an artist, who wants to be an artist, and, who wants to get what is fair under the existing laws regarding the art I produce. The new digital model makes it even easier for large companies to hide revenues that are legally due the artists. None of us ever know if the numbers we are shown by iTunes, Amazon, and others are even accurate (TuneCore excluded, of course ;-) ), and we have no way of knowing, so we are, have been, and will continue to be, easy marks for those out there who want to take advantage of the arts. I sincerely hope that this effort by TuneCore, becomes the new model of decency in an industry that is rife with pilfers and deceivers. Jeff, you’ve stepped up… and I thank you for that. I, and I’m sure many others, see how powerful this could be, and we’re hoping you can deliver.

    Love, peace, continued strength and respect…

    Vinnie James

  • deadstar4

    As the UK only has one super monopoly the PRS/MCPS.Minority artists have no choice of which collection agency they can join.Despite an MMC enquiry in 1996 the PRS continues to ignore minority acts and indeed charges for repertoire not controlled by them via their blanket licence scheme.Indeed many ex employees of this organisation are aware of the fraudulent activities of senior management within the Scottish office of the PRS during the 90s and indeed are incredulous at the blatant omissions in evidence given to the MMC at the time.It would appear that the senior management believe they are beyond the law and are able to hide the real truth through clever accounting practises.After playing a large number of venues in Scotland which were charged significant PRS fees I tried to recover the fees/licence fees charged to the venue as not being a PRS member and performing 100% original material I felt I was entitled to claim this fee back.I received short shrift from PRS.The main problem is the PRS has 2 boards, an executive board and a non executive board made up of publisher members.The executive board tell the non executive board how it is and they have no alternative but to accept what they are told.As long as this dinosaur continues to control artists rights in the UK the plight of the lowly songwriter will remain the same,  

  • Platini_longmam

    Very cool stuff, This is awesome information. Must share.

  • Matth

    You know it takes a while for the money to come full circle. With the old system, it was at least 6 to 9 months before you saw a dime of verified sales. I’m sure TC is faster, but don’t expect it to be immediate. I’m sure your pennies will roll in. Keep the faith. And keep us posted as to whether or not, and how long.

  • Anonymous

    @ T.E.A.M Elite

    Distribution of your recordings is one type of legal right

    The music and lyrics (the “song” or “composition”) is a second legal right
    The two are distinct and separate so you can have one entity provide distribution and another collect the songwriter money.
    In regards to the termination of your contract with your existing company, you need to read the agreement you have with them to learn if/when/how you can terminate
    Sadly, using TuneCore while you are in an agreement with them may be a violation of the contract you signed
    jeff

  • Anonymous

    @Rohan

    It’s amazing to keep hearing stories like this. It’s your music and talent that causes the sales. I am psyched to play any role whatsoever in helping you and your band
    Jeff

  • Anonymous

    @Vinnie

    The short answer to you post is yes, TuneCore would take care of all this for you.
    This little trick is used by publishers – that is, after rights expire, its up to the new entity to notify the 200+ PROs etc around the world that they should re-direct funds to the rightful rights hold. If these notifications do not get made, the money keeps flowing to the entity that no longer has the rights.
    Then these entities do not bother to tell you and just keep the money.
    To make matters worse, the PROs require a legal letter from the old entity to confirm they no longer have the rights (the reason for this is so no one could just say rights have reverted back when they have not). But the old entity that had the rights has little to no motivation to deal with straightening things out.
    But yes, if you were a TuneCore songwriter publishing administration customer, we would go to bat for you, clean up all the databases globally to get the information changed and get whatever of your existing uncollected money that we could
    In addition, on the digital side, we would cut out the global PROs from getting your money in the first place by having it paid to TuneCore thereby getting you more money, more quickly with transparency and an audit trail.
    Jeff

  • Anonymous

    @deadstar4

    I hear you loud and clear. Part of what we are doing is cutting out the PROs (like PRS/MCPS) so they dont get your digital songwriter money in the first place, the money is paid to TuneCore so we can get more money back to you more quickly with transparency and an audit trail
    The old system is woefully out of date and just does not work well

    Jeff

  • Matth

    This is exciting news, not only because of the revenue implications, but also because it demonstrates Tunecore’s commitment to the artist and their commitment to innovating in this still-newish frontier of online music. I’ve been admiring Tunecore from afar for a couple years, but only recently joined as an artist – after the recent pricing structure adjustment which I see soured a lot of people in the forums. I was concerned because historically there have never been any “good guys” in the world of record labels; even indie labels like Homestead were notorious for stealing royalties. This post confirmed my faith in Tunecore as “the good guys” – which I always believed. I’m glad you shared the backstory of running spinART and eMusic. I have several spinART discs on my shelf and was once a subscriber to eMusic.Tunecore is clearly in the hands of passionate music lovers.

    Bands so often complain that in an age of rampant piracy, there’s no money to be made by songwriters. Really I think this is the best time to be an independent artist in the music business. A greater percentage of sales makes it to the artist than ever before. And with Tunecore’s new service there’s a greater chance of actually getting paid for plays and streams.

    One thing I don’t understand. You say: “TuneCore Songwriter Service collects money for songwriters, not labels or performers, from all uses.” How would this affect covers? Or would it at all? Suppose an artist has cleared a cover song and is paying the mechanical fee to the publisher for sales. And then that cover version blows up online – not paid downloads, but multiple streams and plays. Is money owed to the owner of the recording in these cases? Or does it all go to the original publisher?

  • Don

    A) If i am signed up with ASCAP as a songwriter and a publisher how will that work if i sign up with tunecore Songwriter Publishing Administration Service digitally?

    B) would dat be a Administration deal through tunecoredigitally ?
    C) Would i be able to sign artist to my publishing company?

  • Anonymous

    @Matth

    Thank you for giving me a job all these years!

    YOU ASK

    ” Suppose an artist has cleared a cover song and is paying the mechanical fee to the publisher for sales. And then that cover version blows up online – not paid downloads, but multiple streams and plays. Is money owed to the owner of the recording in these cases? Or does it all go to the original publisher?”
    ANSWER:

    There would be two lines of income -the first going to the entity controlling the recording of the song (i.e. the “label”). The second going to the person that wrote the song (or the entity that controls the administrative rights to the song (aka the “music publisher”
    If you have a moment, I think these two links can provide you more information that will further help explain http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMvhjwwzcQg&feature=channel_video_title
    and this link

    http://www.tunecore.com/copyright

    Jeff

  • Anonymous

    @Johnre

    thank you for the kind words!

    More information on copyright can be found here – http://www.tunecore.com/copyright
    jeff

  • Anonymous

    @Don

    YOU ASK:

  • http://www.vinniejames.com Vinnie James

    Thank you, Jeff, for replying so quickly. I think this page, and all the replies, could become a valuable resource in itself.

    I do have one more question that’s been simmering in the back of my mind since I wrote the original post. I realize that this service will be accessible to potentially thousands, if not tens of thousands of songwriters (each with several to many compositions). I’m just wondering how that will affect the level of service each artist receives. I, for example, will probably need a bit of special TLC in the beginning to get things sorted out (based on your reply). I also notice you’ve offered a more personal approach to Aaron North as well. Will each artist have a “go to” person at TuneCore (like we do at the PRO’s)? Would it be possible for me to deal directly with someone on a personal level, rather than “The TuneCore Team?” It would be very disheartening to see balls getting dropped (meet the new boss…), after I decide to enter into an agreement with TuneCore for the administration of my royalties (i.e. because my account was being handled by a first year college intern at a call center in… well, you get my point).

    Thank you, Jeff, for your passion. And gain, thank you in advance for your reply.

    Love, peace, continued strength and respect…

    Vinnie James

  • Anonymous

    @vinnie

    I will ask Jamie to contact you directly. You can hear it from the horses mouth…but no, you will not lose the personal touch nor will anything slip through the cracks.
    Jeff

  • Pink Diva

    This is excellent news. Thanks Tunecore. I am certainly interested. How far back in years will you go to obtain payments?

  • http://www.vinniejames.com Vinnie James

    I figured you’d have it covered, but just wanted to hear it from you. Thanks for offering to have Jamie contact me. I have other questions, but I’ll save them for the direct link-up.

    Again, thank you for your fast and thorough answers here.

    Love, peace, continued strength and respect…

    Vinnie James

  • MrCurious

    Is there a limitation period to collect unpaid digital royalties and performance and machanical royalties?

  • Salomoncanelo

    Estimados amigos, mi nombre es Salomón Canelo y soy compositor, deseo saber si ustedes pueden obtener y cobrar mis regalías, yo tengo un disco que se llama VANGUARDIA y se toca en estaciones de radio privadas y gubernamentales aquí en México, ademas una de las piezas de este disco ya esta en la música de una película  la cual tiene el nombre DESEO, y hacerme llegar mis regalías, si es así díganme cuales son las condiciones y términos del contrato con ustedes y cuales son sus requisitos, por su información gracias att Salomón Canelo

  • Songwriterinfo

    That depends on where the money was earned.  Most digital stores or streaming services will go back years.  Outside of the US it depends on how long the societies hold the unidentified song royalties.  But I would average it out world wide to 18 months (but again some will go back further).

  • Paulproudlove

    really?

  • Salomoncanelo

    Saludos, Estimado señor es mi deseo preguntar a su amable persona si es que su compañia podria cobrar y obtener mis regalias producto de la ejecucion publica de mi disco llamado VANGUARDIA que he producido en el 2006 y que aparece constantemente en radio, tv, y otros medios de comunicacion, ademas de que yo lo estoy ejecutando publicamente en diferentes foros, y de hecho uno de las melodias de esta disco esta en la musica de una pelicula, si es asi favor de comunicarme cuales son sus requisitos y condiciones para poder ingresar a su compañia
    att. Salomon Canelo

  • Pink Diva

    Thank you!

  • Pink Diva

    I have a number or releases from which I wasn’t paid my correct royalty amounts. In some cases, my name wasn’t linked correctly by PRS to the releases by various labels. PRS actually state that they cannot do anything now due to error of their ‘system’ which I would rather not go into right now. I have been a member of them for years. I have been considering legal action but it has been tough working out the best approach, due to them being a monopoly amongst other reasons. I am certainly interested in joining your service. However, I already have an administration and publishing deal. Is there someway in which to find out if the Songwriterinfo service is compatible with my current admin deal? Can you send me your actual duties/agreement or equivalent info to show them, or is it online somewhere? I would be grateful for your help in this.

    Many thanks

  • Anonymous

    If you have a publishing admininstration deal in place you will not be able to use this service.  It will stop us from registering and collecting royalties on your behalf (because they have the exclusive right).  ASCAP/BMI/SESAC/PRS/SOCAN or any performang rights affiliation is not an issue.  We work with them on your behalf (and make sure they are doing there job).

  • Anonymous

    Being signed up with ASCAP or any other PRO as a writer and or publisher are not a problem.  We ask for those details as part of the sign up process.

    It is worldwide administration of your copyrights.

    We have it set up so each individual songwriter must sign up separatly. 

  • http://twitter.com/crushrecs Tyler Mounteney

    I am a Tunecore customer who will be signing up for the songwriter service in short order. I have one question about the nature of streaming sites. I work for a small design company and in our workshop we stream music throughout the day from either grooveshark or  soundcloud (often from artists’ own pages). Will these streams be counted towards the revenue these artists are earning? Or are their specific streaming sites that we should use so that artists are guaranteed to be paid.

  • Anonymous

    SoundCloud would not generate the songwriter revenue as at SoundCloud the songwriter is waiving the right to get paid
    GrooveShark is not legal. It steals songwriters and labels music and makes it free for others to listen to. It does not pay the copyright holders either
    jeff

  • Kenneth H. Williams

    Let the revolution begin!!!!

  • http://twitter.com/crushrecs Tyler Mounteney

    Good to know. Is there a list of legitimate streaming sites available so that we can start using a service that does pay artists? Outwardly grooveshark and Youtube seem like very similar services. Grooveshark even claims to have been given permission to use content by labels and artists. Both feature ads on their splash pages from major label artists. Any info you have that can help us help our favourite artists would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

    Tyler

  • Anonymous

    @Tyler

    Psyched you asked that!

    here is a list of all the digital radio places that do pay – http://soundexchange.com/2011/03/09/who-pays-soundexchange-anyway/
    (personally I like Slacker)

    If you are looking for more customizable options, something like Spotify/Rhapsody/Mog would work, but you need to subscribe to those services
    jeff

  • http://twitter.com/crushrecs Tyler Mounteney

    Wow that’s quite the list. Thanks so much! Everyone will be happy to switch to a service that helps people get paid for making music. Your level of dedication to this concept is inspiring.

    Cheers,

    Tyler.

  • Pink Diva

    Thank you for your help.

  • Pink Diva

    Hi, I would like to sign up but there isn’t an option for PRS members. Can you help? Thanks

  • Anonymous

    When you sign up do not specify one of the US PRO’s.  After you have completed checkout send us a note at songwriters@tunecore.com letting us know you just signed up but you are affiliated with PRS and we will update your information and request any additional information needed at that time.

  • http://www.gentlegiantproductions.us Yancy Johnson

    Hi Jeff, this is Yancy Johnson of  GentleGiant Productions, new on your roster but Ecstatic about what you have going on here at TuneCore……You made it simpler for me to open my Company and give artists a real shake at being true to themselves.  I applaud all you and your team do and we will definitely be joining the new service as well.  Our first single drops by January, So Get Ready…….SMILE……

    Peace and Blessings

  • R.B. Meza

    Hello Jeff.  Sometime back I saw some info. on “Sound Exchange’ provided by TuneCore to its independent artists.  I was contemplating signing up to get paid royalties that may be out there but have not done so yet.  How is the TuneCore Songwriter Service different or better?  I am already a TuneCore artist.
    Thanks in advance,
    R.B. Meza

  • Anonymous

    @RB Meza

    Soundexchange collects money for the entity that controls the recording (i.e. the “label”), for the lead performer of the songs and for musician unions for “non-interactive digital transmissions” (aka internet radio like Pandora)
    TuneCore collects money on behalf of the songwriter (not the label, performer or unions) – it collects all songwriter royalties from all sources. We are a full on global music publishing administrator . The nuance is, in regards to only digital public performances, TuneCore goes direct with the digital music services, eliminating the multiple middlemen (like ASCAP/BMI or their equivalent somewhere else in the world) thereby growing songwriter earnings by up to 25% and getting more money back to you more quickly with transparency and an audit trail.
    Any public performance that is not digital is still collected by ASCAP/BMI etc and we monitor and audit them on your behalf.

    different rights
    different money

    Jeff

  • Pink Diva

    Thank you once again!

  • http://twitter.com/endydaniyanto Endy Daniyanto

    Jeff,

    In the event that I need to provide a proof of copyright for my songs, as a registered member of the TuneCore Songwriter’s Service where can I find such proof? A place I can point people to and say, “here, this is my proof of copyright.”
    Thanks.

  • Anonymous

    @endy

    the minute you make your song tangible (write it down or record it) you get the copyrights
    to take it a step further, you can register them with the Library Of Congress. If you do this, it will provide the extra level of proof you are looking for as well as allow you to sue someone for monetary damages if they infringe
    You can do that here – http://www.mysparkcopyright.com/

    jeff

  • http://twitter.com/endydaniyanto Endy Daniyanto

    Thanks for the link, Jeff.

    Does this apply for the U.S only, or international?

  • Anonymous

    This covers you worldwide.  There is no need to fill out a copyright form for each territory.  The US one will do the trick.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kwilson328 Kyle Wilson

    Sorry for the late post, no hard feelings if there is no response.  

    In today’s digital economy, I believe music piracy helps small indie artists more than hurts.  Yes, I’m not being paid for those tracks, but think about the process.

    For someone to upload my music to the pirate bay, they must have bought it somewhere first, and loved it so much they wanted to share it with others with no barriers to entry, so they broke the law and risked legal persecution just to put MY music up for free?  Thanks, man.  Then other people download it and spread it around because they LIKE it? I thought only my mom liked it, so this is awesome.  Then some of those ones come to my show, buy a T-shirt, and sign up for my email list, it’s a win-win in my situation.

    I want to make sure that the following:

    “5. Police the world on the songwriter’s behalf to find illegal usage or copyright violation and make it stop and/or get the songwriter paid.”

    Won’t have Tunecore breaking down small time pirate’s doors to get my music back.  Some of those guys are my friends, literally.  I’m sure many indie artists have friends that say “Have you heard my friend Kyle’s band?”,  ”No.”,  ”They’re awesome! Here’s their CD, they’re playing on Friday.”  That pirate just sold a ticket to my show.  

    So is there a way, as a Songwriter Service customer, I can say “Leave the pirate bay alone, but sure as hell go after Warner Brothers for using my song in a blockbuster movie without permission”?

  • Anonymous

    yup

    your rights, we work for you…

    jeff

  • http://www.facebook.com/kwilson328 Kyle Wilson

    You’re awesome Jeff.  +1 new customer.

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