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July 02, 2009

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real creativity and risk always overcomes the road most travelled. see the artist who came up with "United breaks guitars." one tune on youtube and he's on his way. and two tunes to come and everybody's waiting to see what he'll come up with. luck or risk? i don't know but 1.5 million views in three days and major media coverage. wow how much is that worth. and the guy is very well spoken and talented. so what can you come up with.

Interesting article, but the musicians in the trenches need more than another sales pitch to attend a seminar. Most of these comments hit the nail on the head; it takes not only hard work, but working smart. If you're working hard but doing the wrong things, what's that worth? I tell all my aritsts the same thing, "An educated artist is an informed artist. That way you can tell the difference between the BS and the real deal." I always recommend Donald Passman's book, Everything You Need To Know About The Music Business, now in it's sixth edition. I've saved lot's of money and time by not focusing on the wrong things. Although there is no magical or secret path to success, I find that by continuing to educate yourself, no matter the subject, your mind gifts you with inspiration. Ideas pop into your head all the time. . .if you don't use it you lose it, right? Keep up the good work, TuneCore!

I think people have forgotten what a musician or a band actually has to do to make money and build a following. I myself am happy to stay at home and sit and write music. I don't care to be a rock star and I don't care to be famous. The facts are if you want to make it you have to play every $2 Bar and Casino in town play for nothing, play for something, play a cover, release your demo as an EP. Make it happen, beg your friends to come to gigs, ring the radio stations, ring TV late shows, ring the news papers get a manager a good one, give em a good cut, work hard work hard work hard then believe it, believe it, you will make it. There is no magic success all success is built on failures and bloody hard work, ask anyone who has succeeded.They will tell you about the seedy hotels, living on a couple of bucks wearing the same clothes for a week, breaking down in there tour bus, dodgy pups and dirty bathrooms it is not a fairy-tale. There is a 95% chance you won't make it on the web seriously don't kid your self. If you think your going to make it on myspace, facebook, reverbnation, twitter or any of these sights your just a dreamer with a guitar and maybe a band. If that is you save yourself the disappointment and get a job you'll be more successful. Trust me you'll also be happier.

Tom's blog article and the collective of responses are thoughtful and interesting.

Art is rarely the result of money or fame. Business success rarely improves the art of an artist. Artists almost always find time and energy to express their art, regardless of the return on investment of time for previous works.

I'm a music industry nobody with a small collection of works that do exactly what I want them to do. So, forgive an "art or business" perspective in an "art and business" forum, but the "new music business" is really just the old music business with a slight change of address. The only difference is that the individuals with power and money are a bit more nervous than ever before.

I got back in the music business because I loved the music that Ben Robinson was making, but, as noted above, it has been very dificult to be heard with so many artists trying to garner attention.

We are breaking through, mostly due to his touring.

We will see how it shakes out.

Best,Monte
P.S. Thanks Tunecore!

"...the new science of Fan Relationship Management and the Fan Relationship Pyramid"

This is not science.

Just one more reason not to take advice from a member of the RIAA.

Without going into too much detail, I've worked for major labels for two decades, and work with dozens of artists, managers, and promoters.

Long story short, 75% of Echo's 300 clients were evicted largely because they were not marketing their sites. And, they were paying for the system. And bitching about how much it costs.

We started Generator to be an alternative to Echo, and after three years of trying to train artists and managers to run their own businesses, we have essentially given up. We built a great system, undercut Echo's prices, and worked to help get artists up and running. We even built some sites for free. I could count the number of new stories, blog posts and email sends the entire group does on a monthly basis on one hand.

Rather than complain or award blame, I am just saying this: The future is going to look a lot like the past, because artists as a group have little to no money, are very distracted by nature, and have too many people around them willing to work for free to support their music. The qualified experts won't work for free and therefore the artist is left on their own.

The solution? Investment. Plain and simple. Cash, infrastructure, and expertise. Sure, future labels won't make all their money selling CDs in stores, but the basic financial structure of the buisiness — advances against ownership of assets — will return and remain.

http://www.generatornetwork.com/blog

The problem is that it is nearly impossible to market and promote one's music full time, hold down a job and acquire the skills to actually make music someone wants to hear. Most of the artists we know and love today were not out marketing themselves. The were discovered and someone else marketed them. All the internet did for artists was allow theft of music, much as the ipod. These technologies destroyed the music industry. Today, anyone can 'promote' their music, but how many actually make any money? I know of zero artists that were not established prior to 2000 or were broken by a label that actually make a living selling their music online. Maybe there are a few but that is insignificant. I have yet to see any business model that can make sense out of the nightmare the internet has wrought on copyright laws and and artists. What was supposed to save artists from the tyranny of the labels was a torjan horse that destroyed the entire music business.

Janifer - I totally agree with your comment "It isn't always the most talented artist that gets the fame... it's the most driven".

I agree that there are many more options available to us these days for self promotion and many of them are great; however, I really prefer to play my guitar and sing my songs rather than trawl around on Facebook, Myspace or ReverbNation obtaining 'friends' or 'fans'. It becomes an admin job. I can do that in any normal office and earn much more money, and then use some of that money to make the music I like, whether 1 or 100,000 people listen to it.

I'm very inspired!

As soon as I can get on a BET awards show with Lil Wayne & exploit underage girls as props for my sexist yowlings, I too shall sell big!

http://www.rapbasement.com/bet/070209-bet-is-under-firing-over-the-performance-of-lil-wayne-and-drakes-every-girl-song.html

All the breast & ass,

There are quite a number of factors many artists do not even touch upon, thinking someone else will help them in that measure. In my opinion, it has to do with be open to be educated in the business aspect of the business. It isn't always the most talented artist that gets the fame... it's the most driven.

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